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  • 10-10-2006 6:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please? (from Bird Sound Identification thread)

    Name: Lady of Southern California
    E-mail: Not specified

    Chile, Carmen:

    I saw pic of Manaqua Dove - it was not a Manaqua Dove - Not a Dove at all. So often there is just a brief CAM shot of bird in question and I thought I was really describing as completely as I possible could. In this case legs, and feet  were not visible. I can only describe what I see. And, no I was just using the "dove" comparison for size purposes only not even meaning it could have been a dove. It was a lone bird. It's feathers were all fluffy - making it look fat -  could have been that it was fluffing it's feathers. The feathers were not smooth and not grey - all feathers that I could see were white-white except for the wing tips and tail. CAM pic was not that clear and did not stay on bird long enough to capture a shot. 

    Thanks both of you for helping. Everything you have stated makes sense. I do print off all the pictures I can to help ID birds. My bird book of American birds, of course does not help at all. No used book store where I live and Friends of the Library used book store does not have. I'll go by the Library and take a look at the Birds of East Africa. If they do not have it on the shelves they will look on their computers and if it is listed they will send down to the central county library and request it for me so I can check it out. 
                                   

  • 10-10-2006 4:24 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please? (from Bird Sound Identification thread)

    Name: Not specified
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

     
    Name: Lady of Southern California
    E-mail: Not specified

    Chile, please ID the following bird that was in bush or tree:

    The bird is probably about the size of a dove or a little larger and seemed a little fluffy, mostly all white-white except for dark tail and wing tips, orange or red beak, black streak from back of beak going down and back of head,  bright yellow eye with a splash of yellow color around eyes.

    The Check List is great except you still have to know what to look for when looking at the list. I try to find pics.  

    I understand your dilemma with the checklist.  That's why I ended up picking up a Birds of East Africa book at a used bookstore - I wasn't even familiar with many of the bird families from Africa and often didn't know where to start!

    Carmen responded that your bird might be a Namaqua Dove.  I'm not sure as some of the characteristics you describe don't quite fit.  If you have a pic, that would help.  When describing a bird, try to include as much detail as possible.  Additional information that would help identify your mystery bird above is includes:

    Did it have a vertical or horizontal profile?  (Think dove posture vs. owl.) 

    Did it have short legs like a dove or longer legs like the shorebirds (think of the Black-winged Stilt, for instance)?

    Did it have a long bill or short bill?  Was it thin or thick?  If thin, was it curved or straight?  Did it have a sharp hook (like an eagle)?

    Was the tail short or long?  Did it have a square tip, round tip, or was it notched in the middle?

    Was the body thin or stocky?  (This is often in relation to size of tail...)

    What was its behavior?

    Was it alone or in a flock of similar birds?

    I know you probably won't be able to answer all of these for the above bird, but try to remember what you can.  And, keep these things in mind while watching birds.  Practice on the ones in your yard, trying to note as much as you can.  With practice and with a bird book, you start picking up the gist of a bird.  For instance, you said dove-sized, which means you are familiar with the size of doves as opposed to, say, a sparrow.  Both Carmen and I probably automatically assumed then that you also meant that it had the posture and look of a dove, but we really don't know that for sure.

    I hope this makes sense and is helpful.  Please post what you can and we'll try to track down your bird!  Smile [:)]

     

    Chile, Carmen:

    I saw pic of Manaqua Dove - it was not a Manaqua Dove - Not a Dove at all. So often there is just a brief CAM shot of bird in question and I thought I was really describing as completely as I possible could. In this case legs, and feet  were not visible. I can only describe what I see. And, no I was just using the "dove" comparison for size purposes only not even meaning it could have been a dove. It was a lone bird. It's feathers were all fluffy - making it look fat -  could have been that it was fluffing it's feathers. The feathers were not smooth and not grey - all feathers that I could see were white-white except for the wing tips and tail. CAM pic was not that clear and did not stay on bird long enough to capture a shot. 

    Thanks both of you for helping. Everything you have stated makes sense. I do print off all the pictures I can to help ID birds. My bird book of American birds, of course does not help at all. No used book store where I live and Friends of the Library used book store does not have. I'll go by the Library and take a look at the Birds of East Africa. If they do not have it on the shelves they will look on their computers and if it is listed they will send down to the central county library and request it for me so I can check it out. 
                                   

     

  • 10-09-2006 7:00 PM In reply to

    Bird Info Helpful for IDing

    Name: Not specified
    E-mail: Not specified

    Chile posted these very helpful tips for IDing birds.  I repost them here to bring more attention to them.

    Name: Chile

    ... When describing a bird, try to include as much detail as possible.  Additional information that would help identify your mystery bird ... includes:

    Did it have a vertical or horizontal profile?  (Think dove posture vs. owl.) 

    Did it have short legs like a dove or longer legs like the shorebirds (think of the Black-winged Stilt, for instance)?

    Did it have a long bill or short bill?  Was it thin or thick?  If thin, was it curved or straight?  Did it have a sharp hook (like an eagle)?

    Was the tail short or long?  Did it have a square tip, round tip, or was it notched in the middle?

    Was the body thin or stocky?  (This is often in relation to size of tail...)

    What was its behavior?

    Was it alone or in a flock of similar birds?

    ... keep these things in mind while watching birds.  Practice on the ones in your yard, trying to note as much as you can.  With practice and with a bird book, you start picking up the gist of a bird.

  • 10-09-2006 5:00 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please? (from Bird Sound Identification thread)

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

     
    Name: Lady of Southern California
    E-mail: Not specified

    Chile, please ID the following bird that was in bush or tree:

    The bird is probably about the size of a dove or a little larger and seemed a little fluffy, mostly all white-white except for dark tail and wing tips, orange or red beak, black streak from back of beak going down and back of head,  bright yellow eye with a splash of yellow color around eyes.

    The Check List is great except you still have to know what to look for when looking at the list. I try to find pics.  

    I understand your dilemma with the checklist.  That's why I ended up picking up a Birds of East Africa book at a used bookstore - I wasn't even familiar with many of the bird families from Africa and often didn't know where to start!

    Carmen responded that your bird might be a Namaqua Dove.  I'm not sure as some of the characteristics you describe don't quite fit.  If you have a pic, that would help.  When describing a bird, try to include as much detail as possible.  Additional information that would help identify your mystery bird above is includes:

    Did it have a vertical or horizontal profile?  (Think dove posture vs. owl.) 

    Did it have short legs like a dove or longer legs like the shorebirds (think of the Black-winged Stilt, for instance)?

    Did it have a long bill or short bill?  Was it thin or thick?  If thin, was it curved or straight?  Did it have a sharp hook (like an eagle)?

    Was the tail short or long?  Did it have a square tip, round tip, or was it notched in the middle?

    Was the body thin or stocky?  (This is often in relation to size of tail...)

    What was its behavior?

    Was it alone or in a flock of similar birds?

    I know you probably won't be able to answer all of these for the above bird, but try to remember what you can.  And, keep these things in mind while watching birds.  Practice on the ones in your yard, trying to note as much as you can.  With practice and with a bird book, you start picking up the gist of a bird.  For instance, you said dove-sized, which means you are familiar with the size of doves as opposed to, say, a sparrow.  Both Carmen and I probably automatically assumed then that you also meant that it had the posture and look of a dove, but we really don't know that for sure.

    I hope this makes sense and is helpful.  Please post what you can and we'll try to track down your bird!  Smile [:)]

  • 10-08-2006 7:32 AM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Name: Not specified

    Second bird is a Starling - either Glossy or Greater Blue-eared.  I'm going to post on the Sightings board to ask Paul which is more likely as I don't think we can tell from the video.

    Thanks, again!  You're a angel Angel [A] to help me out on this.  I am so ignorant of birds!

    Oops! that was me, Nancy-IN.

    You're welcome!  The best way to learn is to just keep at it.  I really like using the combination of the Mashatu bird checklist and the African Bird Image database.  With the checklist, it at least narrows down the choices!  'Course, Paul is the easy way out.  I love the new Hide thread, but sometimes I intentionally don't look to see what he calls something until I've gone and tried to figure it out myself.  Smile [:)]

  • 10-07-2006 8:18 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Name: Not specified

    Second bird is a Starling - either Glossy or Greater Blue-eared.  I'm going to post on the Sightings board to ask Paul which is more likely as I don't think we can tell from the video.

    Thanks, again!  You're a angel Angel [A] to help me out on this.  I am so ignorant of birds!

    Oops! that was me, Nancy-IN.

  • 10-07-2006 8:17 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Not specified
    E-mail: Not specified

    Second bird is a Starling - either Glossy or Greater Blue-eared.  I'm going to post on the Sightings board to ask Paul which is more likely as I don't think we can tell from the video.

    Thanks, again!  You're a angel Angel [A] to help me out on this.  I am so ignorant of birds!

  • 10-07-2006 6:42 PM In reply to

    Re: help wth bird id

    Name: Kathy
    E-mail: Not specified

    That's them!
    I thought that's what they were, but wanted to be sure.
    Thank you Leslie!

    Kathy in NY

  • 10-07-2006 6:02 PM In reply to

    Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Carmen
    E-mail: Not specified

    I have uploaded the video "A Myriad of Birds"...it is processing...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sRHKCk_sKQ

    Beth (emc)  already posted some captures of these birds, perhaps and id from left to right if possible?  And there are more in the video please do tell about!

    Masked Weaver (Southern or Lesser??)

    Speckled Mousebirds

    Blue Waxbill

    Mousebirds, blue waxbill and?

    Mousebirds, bluewaxbill, masked weaver...and...and...and?

    Of Course I have more captures but I think the video can tell it better...

    Thanks!

    Carmen

  • 10-07-2006 5:16 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Name: Chile

    2. Is this the blue waxbill people were talking about? No.  Look at emc's 3rd & 4th photos - upper right, and ID photo I posted.  It's more of a sparrow or finch-like bird.  I'll check the video on this later (husband wants to leave for bike ride RIGHT NOW!)

    Thanks, Chile! Big Smile [:D]  I've heard about the Malachite Kingfisher, but this is my first sitghting!

    Second bird is a Starling - either Glossy or Greater Blue-eared.  I'm going to post on the Sightings board to ask Paul which is more likely as I don't think we can tell from the video.

    Check the screenshots thread for more pictures of the Malachite Kingfisher.  You've gotta see his beautiful front and red bill!

  • 10-07-2006 4:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Name: Chile

    1. Some kind of weaver? = Southern Masked Weaver

    2. Is this the blue waxbill people were talking about? No.  Look at emc's 3rd & 4th photos - upper right, and ID photo I posted.  It's more of a sparrow or finch-like bird.  I'll check the video on this later (husband wants to leave for bike ride RIGHT NOW!)

    3. I have no idea on this one = Malachite Kingfisher

    Thanks, Chile! Big Smile [:D]  I've heard about the Malachite Kingfisher, but this is my first sitghting!

  • 10-07-2006 10:06 AM In reply to

    Re: Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Does anyone know either of these birds?

    1. Some kind of weaver? = Southern Masked Weaver

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84EfPzTZxmw

    2. Is this the blue waxbill people were talking about? No.  Look at emc's 3rd & 4th photos - upper right, and ID photo I posted.  It's more of a sparrow or finch-like bird.  I'll check the video on this later (husband wants to leave for bike ride RIGHT NOW!)

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfpezivNDdI 

    3. I have no idea on this one = Malachite Kingfisher

    (sorry, no video)

    Thanks for any help with this!

  • 10-07-2006 8:04 AM In reply to

    Bird IDs, please?

    Name: Nancy-IN
    E-mail: Not specified

    Does anyone know either of these birds?

    1. Some kind of weaver?

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84EfPzTZxmw

    2. Is this the blue waxbill people were talking about?

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfpezivNDdI 

    3. I have no idea on this one

    (sorry, no video)

    Thanks for any help with this!

  • 10-07-2006 7:14 AM In reply to

    Re: help wth bird id

    Name: Leslie
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Leslie
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Kathy
    E-mail: moondreams1@verizon.net

        Could someone please tell me what the beautiful pair of crested birds are? They're very regal, have long legs, but definitely are not herons, and have a marvelously fun crest of a few long spiky feathers. They're mostly white with grey. They aren't shown in the animal gallery on the NG site.

    Thanks for your help
    Kathy in NY

    PS any sites that would help me identify birds at the pond would be awesome too

     

    Kathy, are these the two you were talking about?

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    if so, they are called Secretary birds.. I love seeing them every morning myself lol

     

    Also, here is a site with some interesting facts about them http://www.lairweb.org.nz/vulture/secretary.html

  • 10-07-2006 7:10 AM In reply to

    Re: help wth bird id

    Name: Leslie
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: Kathy
    E-mail: moondreams1@verizon.net

        Could someone please tell me what the beautiful pair of crested birds are? They're very regal, have long legs, but definitely are not herons, and have a marvelously fun crest of a few long spiky feathers. They're mostly white with grey. They aren't shown in the animal gallery on the NG site.

    Thanks for your help
    Kathy in NY

    PS any sites that would help me identify birds at the pond would be awesome too

     

    Kathy, are these the two you were talking about?

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    if so, they are called Secretary birds.. I love seeing them every morning myself lol

  • 10-07-2006 6:52 AM In reply to

    help wth bird id

    Name: Kathy
    E-mail: moondreams1@verizon.net

        Could someone please tell me what the beautiful pair of crested birds are? They're very regal, have long legs, but definitely are not herons, and have a marvelously fun crest of a few long spiky feathers. They're mostly white with grey. They aren't shown in the animal gallery on the NG site.

    Thanks for your help
    Kathy in NY

    PS any sites that would help me identify birds at the pond would be awesome too
  • 10-07-2006 2:53 AM In reply to

    Paul confirms bird was Blue Waxbill

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Anonymous:
    Name: emc E-mail: Not specified Don't know, didn't see it at the time. Can you see it in your replay??

    Sighting was at 6:43 am.  Brief glimpse in replay, barely enough to see anything more than in your screenshot other than it didn't have a long or curved or otherwise funky bill. 

  • 10-07-2006 2:48 AM In reply to

    Re: blue bird in 3rd photo

    Name: emc
    E-mail: Not specified

    Don't know, didn't see it at the time. Can you see it in your replay??
  • 10-07-2006 2:43 AM In reply to

    Re: blue bird in 3rd photo

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Blue waxbill perhaps?

  • 10-07-2006 2:10 AM In reply to

    Re: Gray Lourie and Speckled Mousebird?

    Name: emc
    E-mail: Not specified

    I know it's a challenge, they were moving so fast. I thought the top one was a Gray Lourie for sure. LOL

    Maybe someone will capture it from a video or a stop action??
    I do remember the feed in the beginning, it's tail was so long I was wondering if it was a vervet monkey. Which I think someone thought was the case yesterday. Don't think I have a pic of that tho. Wish I did.!!!
  • 10-07-2006 2:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Gray Lourie and Speckled Mousebird?

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Oh my, what a challenge.  You know, Paul said they were both present when he had the camera there...so I'm going to take his word for it.  LOL!  As far as which is in these pics, I'm not sure.

    Here's what I've gleaned from flipping back and forth between photos of the two birds:

    Mousebird: smaller, dark on face at base of bill, browner cast esp. on tail, tail 1.5 times longer than body with central tail feathers longest

    Go-Away Bird: larger and maybe stockier, uniformly gray, tail same length as body with straight end

    With that in mind, I recall one of the first birds flitting in the bush as having a ridiculously long tail, so I'm thinking that was the mousebird.  (Photos 2 &4 above) A bit later, another briefly perched with its back to the camera with a distinctly squared off tail, so that was probably the lourie.  Not sure about Photos 3 & 5, but I think 1 is also the mousebird.

  • 10-07-2006 1:36 AM In reply to

    Gray Lourie and Speckled Mousebird?

    Name: emc
    E-mail: Not specified

    Here are my screenshots of the Gray Lourie and the speckled mousebird?? Sorry they really aren't that great. Maybe someone can make heads or tails out of it . hehehe





    click to enlarge
  • 10-06-2006 12:59 PM In reply to

    Useful website for ID & Natural History

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    This seems to be a pretty good site with clear photos and interesting biological info:

    http://www.lioncrusher.com/animalinfo.asp

  • 10-06-2006 12:51 PM In reply to

    Jackals

    Name: Chile
    E-mail: Not specified

    Thought I'd post the pictures of the 2 jackal species here as that ID debate is what prompted the establishment of this thread.  So far, only the Black-backed Jackal has been seen at the Pond.  The Mashatu Mammal Checklist also only lists the Black-backed for the area.  Range for the Side-striped as been described as only into Northern Botswana, whereas Pete's Pond is located in Eastern Botswana (not quite extending up as far north).

    Key ID features to note are the color of the tail tip and size of the ears. At night, in B&W, the Black-backed Jackal may appear to just have a stripe on the side, but this is because the lower border of the black back is often darker than the grayish-black mantel. Check some of the photos in the Videos & Screenshots thread for a good look.

    (Photos originally posted by Scooter.)

    Black Backed Jackel

     

    Side-striped jackal

    (photo of side-striped jackal)\

     

    Side-striped Jackal

  • 10-06-2006 12:33 PM

    Animal ID Questions

    Name: Kristin
    E-mail: Not specified

    JMR in Indiana,  I read your suggestion on the Daily Log thread about doing an animal ID thread and think it's a great idea.  So, here it is!

    Hopefully, this thread will give people a place to discuss ID's, instead of it being spread out on the "Sightings..." thread, the "Daily Log Concerns..." thread, the video one, and (gulp!) the now much dreaded Daily Log thread (smile).  This will give people one less thing to talk about on the Daily Log thread, and provide an obvious place to debate and instruct about the identities of all these wonderful creatures.  I don't know how to post pictures yet, but it might also be neat to set up a field guide thread where people can post pictures (hopefully in a fairly organized, useful way) showing some of the animals and birds and stuff that aren't shown on the NGM site.  Or, maybe it could just be on this thread.  We'll see how it goes. 

    Thanks for the good idea! 
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